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    Hi Rowsus

    Hope all is going well for you.

    I just noticed H McKay scored 63.

    He also scored 63 last week and 63 the week before that , so it got me intrigued.

    What is the record number of consecutive games a player has scored the same score for.

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    Rowsus, I have a question around how much cash is to much.

    Given this seasons lack of high cash generating rookies (T Kelly excepted) I am thinking of a double downgrade (Spargo and Ronke if named) this week which would leave me with about ~$500k - $550k but is that too much to have unexpended for a week?
    I understand that it may be a case by case basis or situational - if good quality rookies present themselves then get them in but I wanted to see if you have any deeper thoughts/a statistical view on this?

    Currently I am sitting 241st and this would allow for a double upgrade next week, Danger and Prem Def. I would be hoping to hold ground or a slight drop for the long term gain.
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    Hi Rowsus,
    I am very interested in your thoughts about the rucks at the moment.
    I have Gawn and English now.
    English is the biggest scoring weakness in my team and I doubt will increase further in value.
    I have doubts about Grundy, 613K (630K after round 6), being able to continue at his current average and is still priced close to his peak. However, he is reliable having missed only 3 games since 2016. I regard him a solid choice but at a premium price.
    Kruezer, (492K, ave 71) has returned and is very cheap if you look at his 2017 scores, but, expensive when you look at any other season. His reliability is historically a real issue. I see him as a high risk option with potential for big gains or losses.
    McEvoy, (473K, ave 97) is reasonably priced and has played 50 of the last 51 games. I see him as a solid and reliable selection, but with little chance to excel.
    Nic Nat, (471K, ave 95) is clearly being managed with limited time on ground each week, however, his points scored per time (1.3 points per minute) played is higher than most other ruck options. He has a sound playing record over the years until his serious injury in 2016. Continually managed with less time on ground, his upside is limited. However, if his game time increases as the season progresses and his points scored per minute remain the same, he has a real upside at this price.
    Sam Jacobs, (431K, ave 85) has a great games played history, but seems to be past his best. I regard him as a solid selection at his current price, however, not with a big upside.
    Before writing this, I was leaning towards McEvoy. I am now leaning towards Nic Nat as I see him having the biggest window of opportunity to increase his current average score.
    I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks in advance, Terry.
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    Hey Row,

    (perhaps not so quick!) Question for you:
    Last week I tried to rectify a disadvantageous POD by bringing in Heeney. This week I had set my heart on trading 1-up 1-down and bringing in Matt Crouch (after having traded him out when he injured himself). While having a quick look at my options though I stumbled across one J Selwood, priced only slightly above Crouch and with a much more favourable history (albeit patchy over the past few years).
    What are your thoughts on him? Does he go at a similar rate to Danger this season at a much higher POD rate? Crouch is obviously a pig who racks them up, Adelaide seem to be building back up as well.

    Danger 23% of teams already which should rise as he drops in value.
    Selwood @7% currently.

    My other options could also be Neale/Oliver/JPK

    Any thoughts would be appreciated as always. Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryB View Post
    Hi Rowsus,
    I am very interested in your thoughts about the rucks at the moment.
    I have Gawn and English now.
    English is the biggest scoring weakness in my team and I doubt will increase further in value.
    I have doubts about Grundy, 613K (630K after round 6), being able to continue at his current average and is still priced close to his peak. However, he is reliable having missed only 3 games since 2016. I regard him a solid choice but at a premium price.
    Kruezer, (492K, ave 71) has returned and is very cheap if you look at his 2017 scores, but, expensive when you look at any other season. His reliability is historically a real issue. I see him as a high risk option with potential for big gains or losses.
    McEvoy, (473K, ave 97) is reasonably priced and has played 50 of the last 51 games. I see him as a solid and reliable selection, but with little chance to excel.
    Nic Nat, (471K, ave 95) is clearly being managed with limited time on ground each week, however, his points scored per time (1.3 points per minute) played is higher than most other ruck options. He has a sound playing record over the years until his serious injury in 2016. Continually managed with less time on ground, his upside is limited. However, if his game time increases as the season progresses and his points scored per minute remain the same, he has a real upside at this price.
    Sam Jacobs, (431K, ave 85) has a great games played history, but seems to be past his best. I regard him as a solid selection at his current price, however, not with a big upside.
    Before writing this, I was leaning towards McEvoy. I am now leaning towards Nic Nat as I see him having the biggest window of opportunity to increase his current average score.
    I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks in advance, Terry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MC's Mix View Post
    Hey Row,

    (perhaps not so quick!) Question for you:
    Last week I tried to rectify a disadvantageous POD by bringing in Heeney. This week I had set my heart on trading 1-up 1-down and bringing in Matt Crouch (after having traded him out when he injured himself). While having a quick look at my options though I stumbled across one J Selwood, priced only slightly above Crouch and with a much more favourable history (albeit patchy over the past few years).
    What are your thoughts on him? Does he go at a similar rate to Danger this season at a much higher POD rate? Crouch is obviously a pig who racks them up, Adelaide seem to be building back up as well.

    Danger 23% of teams already which should rise as he drops in value.
    Selwood @7% currently.

    My other options could also be Neale/Oliver/JPK

    Any thoughts would be appreciated as always. Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrainFedBeef View Post
    As a prior owner of Selwood suggest to look at scoring patterns of prior years. Always starts strong then eventually the close attention comes in the 2nd half of the season.
    I hear what you're saying, though I feel as if that trend was more prevalent pre-Danger and of course new addition Ablett. I also could be wrong, but I thought it was more the reverse of that as well, in that he started slowly and fired more as the season went on.
    Cheers for the response
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    Quote Originally Posted by MC's Mix View Post
    Offered a 1-match ban from the MRP, might want to hold off if you're keen on NN!
    Thanks MC's Mix. I missed that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomber18 View Post
    Hi Rowsus

    Parker's become a super frustrating pick and becoming difficult to fix right now without compromising my upgrades. He appears to be spending a lot of time up forward and this seems to have gotten worse with Franklin out. I'm giving some thought to Parker to Jack Redden as a short term fix and to free up 100k (haven't got the exact pricings as yet. EDIT: well i got that estimation pretty wrong, only 50k in the end). Shuey has just done a hammy and Redden seems to be back in the midfield rather than up fwd. Could this sort of move work or am I just making my problems worse? Better to hold Parker and work it out at the bye?

    Appreciate your thoughts.

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    Hi B18,
    it would appear it only works if Redden becomes a Keeper, otherwise you don't seem to be getting your full trades worth out of the deal.
    My opinion is, that Redden won't do that. Your opinion may differ, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbie66 View Post
    Hi Rowsus

    Hope all is going well for you.

    I just noticed H McKay scored 63.

    He also scored 63 last week and 63 the week before that , so it got me intrigued.

    What is the record number of consecutive games a player has scored the same score for.

    Cheers
    Hi Herbie,
    three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by siwel View Post
    Rowsus, I have a question around how much cash is to much.

    Given this seasons lack of high cash generating rookies (T Kelly excepted) I am thinking of a double downgrade (Spargo and Ronke if named) this week which would leave me with about ~$500k - $550k but is that too much to have unexpended for a week?
    I understand that it may be a case by case basis or situational - if good quality rookies present themselves then get them in but I wanted to see if you have any deeper thoughts/a statistical view on this?

    Currently I am sitting 241st and this would allow for a double upgrade next week, Danger and Prem Def. I would be hoping to hold ground or a slight drop for the long term gain.
    siwel,
    $700k might be too much, unless it was leading into the byes, and you had some elaborate plans.
    $500-$550k is not too much, as long as you don't sit on it next week!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryB View Post
    Hi Rowsus,
    I am very interested in your thoughts about the rucks at the moment.
    I have Gawn and English now.
    English is the biggest scoring weakness in my team and I doubt will increase further in value.
    I have doubts about Grundy, 613K (630K after round 6), being able to continue at his current average and is still priced close to his peak. However, he is reliable having missed only 3 games since 2016. I regard him a solid choice but at a premium price.
    Kruezer, (492K, ave 71) has returned and is very cheap if you look at his 2017 scores, but, expensive when you look at any other season. His reliability is historically a real issue. I see him as a high risk option with potential for big gains or losses.
    McEvoy, (473K, ave 97) is reasonably priced and has played 50 of the last 51 games. I see him as a solid and reliable selection, but with little chance to excel.
    Nic Nat, (471K, ave 95) is clearly being managed with limited time on ground each week, however, his points scored per time (1.3 points per minute) played is higher than most other ruck options. He has a sound playing record over the years until his serious injury in 2016. Continually managed with less time on ground, his upside is limited. However, if his game time increases as the season progresses and his points scored per minute remain the same, he has a real upside at this price.
    Sam Jacobs, (431K, ave 85) has a great games played history, but seems to be past his best. I regard him as a solid selection at his current price, however, not with a big upside.
    Before writing this, I was leaning towards McEvoy. I am now leaning towards Nic Nat as I see him having the biggest window of opportunity to increase his current average score.
    I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks in advance, Terry.
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    Hi Terry B,
    I'm assuming you have English at R2.
    I'd consider Witts amongst all those players you listed, as well.
    The other option to consider is going English to McInerney, and generating a bit more cash, whie you wait for Ryder to drop in price, and get some match fitness.
    I'm not sure I'd risk McEvoy, given Ceglar played his first game for the year on the weekend, and may come in soon. McEvoy struggled in SC terms when not lone Rucking in the past.
    McInerney would also let you see how much Grundy might drop in price, too. I know he's a risk JS-wise, but if he's picked this week, that's where I'd be going if I had English at R2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MC's Mix View Post
    Hey Row,

    (perhaps not so quick!) Question for you:
    Last week I tried to rectify a disadvantageous POD by bringing in Heeney. This week I had set my heart on trading 1-up 1-down and bringing in Matt Crouch (after having traded him out when he injured himself). While having a quick look at my options though I stumbled across one J Selwood, priced only slightly above Crouch and with a much more favourable history (albeit patchy over the past few years).
    What are your thoughts on him? Does he go at a similar rate to Danger this season at a much higher POD rate? Crouch is obviously a pig who racks them up, Adelaide seem to be building back up as well.

    Danger 23% of teams already which should rise as he drops in value.
    Selwood @7% currently.

    My other options could also be Neale/Oliver/JPK

    Any thoughts would be appreciated as always. Cheers
    Quote Originally Posted by GrainFedBeef View Post
    As a prior owner of Selwood suggest to look at scoring patterns of prior years. Always starts strong then eventually the close attention comes in the 2nd half of the season.
    Quote Originally Posted by MC's Mix View Post
    I hear what you're saying, though I feel as if that trend was more prevalent pre-Danger and of course new addition Ablett. I also could be wrong, but I thought it was more the reverse of that as well, in that he started slowly and fired more as the season went on.
    Cheers for the response
    Hi MC,
    I think I would avoid Geelong Mid Prems for the moment. I know they all scored ok in Round 1, but it's a small sample, and I'd want more evidence that they can all cohabit in a SC sense, before I took any of them.
    Of the players you mentioned, I think I'd stick to Crouch. I think he's as good a chance as any of the others to be a good pick, and he's really well priced ...... this week!
    Last edited by Rowsus; 10-05-2018 at 3:24am.
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    Hi Rows,

    Still carrying that Billing’s Bunny.
    Do I offload for Spargo and upgrade Crowden to Oliver, Crouch or Danger? Would leave me with little cash?
    Currently have $185k
    Or just ride it out and hold?
    Was holding cash for Danger next week.
    Other option is Billing’s to Seedsman via Keefe but I would then
    Lose dpp with Sicily and Keefe I think
    In having another look .. I think I have to offload Billing’s.
    Could choose Findlayson, Doedee or Billing’s along with Barry to Seedsman and Sparge.
    Findlayson and more than likely Billing’s will lose cash.
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    Hey mate, keen to get your thoughts on Billings and Petracca. Can you afford to carry both? If not, which one do you think is a bigger issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowsus View Post
    Hi Terry B,
    I'm assuming you have English at R2.
    I'd consider Witts amongst all those players you listed, as well.
    The other option to consider is going English to McInerney, and generating a bit more cash, whie you wait for Ryder to drop in price, and get some match fitness.
    I'm not sure I'd risk McEvoy, given Ceglar played his first game for the year on the weekend, and may come in soon. McEvoy struggled in SC terms when not lone Rucking in the past.
    McInerney would also let you see how much Grundy might drop in price, too. I know he's a risk JS-wise, but if he's picked this week, that's where I'd be going if I had English at R2.
    As always great and informed feedback. I had not even considered McInerney. Off to do some homework.
    Thank you very much.
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    Hi Rowsus

    i hope your doing well.

    i was hoping to bring in either macrae or m crouch this week? macrae is the obvious choice. what do you think crouch and macrae will average for the rest of the season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slammer View Post
    Hi Rows,

    Still carrying that Billing’s Bunny.
    Do I offload for Spargo and upgrade Crowden to Oliver, Crouch or Danger? Would leave me with little cash?
    Currently have $185k
    Or just ride it out and hold?
    Was holding cash for Danger next week.
    Other option is Billing’s to Seedsman via Keefe but I would then
    Lose dpp with Sicily and Keefe I think
    In having another look .. I think I have to offload Billing’s.
    Could choose Findlayson, Doedee or Billing’s along with Barry to Seedsman and Sparge.
    Findlayson and more than likely Billing’s will lose cash.
    Hi Slam,
    it seems a shame to unload Billings, having ridden him this far, but maybe the time has come.
    I would try and maintain your D/F link, and I'd wait at least another week for Danger.
    Maybe Crouch/Spargo is the way to go, as it certainly saves money over your other options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoku Pops View Post
    Hey mate, keen to get your thoughts on Billings and Petracca. Can you afford to carry both? If not, which one do you think is a bigger issue?
    Hey ZP, it's looking like neither of them will hold down a decent F6. Petracca always seemed like a strange one to me, given the depth in Melbourne's young midfielders, and how good he is up Forward. I thought he'd always struggle to get decent, regular, midfield time, unless we got hit by a couple of injuries.
    Billings, as strange it may seem, is more likely to turn it around, having been there, and done that before, but both look like they need correcting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline View Post
    Hi Rowsus

    i hope your doing well.

    i was hoping to bring in either macrae or m crouch this week? macrae is the obvious choice. what do you think crouch and macrae will average for the rest of the season?
    Hi Adrenaline,
    to be honest, I think Crouch is the obvious choice! It would seem unlikely Macrae can continue on like this, and the $95k difference is pretty huge.
    You might have seen my tables on Macrae, in the Anatomy thread. I'd say from here to the end of the season, something in the 108-110 area would be Macrae's upper limit, while Crouch's upper limit might be up around 115-117 from here.
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