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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by t.thomas6 View Post
    Daniel Wells has reportedly done his achilles (previously reported as torn calf) at training today.

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    Poor bloke but he timed his strong year really well to push his market value up to secure probably an extra $1 mil in retirement funds. Seems like North might have done pretty well with the compensation pick.

    And I was just saying how we don't need to worry about Pendles losing mid time as Wells would probably get injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomberboy View Post
    2 North fans posting in a row... didn't realise that many of you knew how to use a computer
    3 likes!!! I think we need a dislike option for all the non-bombers.

    Let's face it, there only 2 types of people. Bombers supporters....and people that are glad they aren't!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by t.thomas6 View Post
    There was a reason North didn't match. You can't overpay for what you get.

    As much as I love Wellsy (he was my favuorite player at North) and I'm sad to hear he's injured again - couldn't of happened to a better club.
    1. There was indeed a reason why North didn't match, it's because they know they wont be relevant for the next 5 years and Wells wouldn't be around by then.
    2. Of course you can overpay for a player if he adds extra value to the structure. Regardless, you can't say Collingwood overpaid when
    -Wells hasn't even been declared unfit for round 1
    -Wells hasn't even played a single game in the Pies outfit
    3. "Couldn't of happened to a better club", wanna explain what you mean here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beg2Differ View Post
    3 likes!!! I think we need a dislike option for all the non-bombers.

    Let's face it, there only 2 types of people. Bombers supporters....and people that are glad they aren't!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prochard View Post
    1. There was indeed a reason why North didn't match, it's because they know they wont be relevant for the next 5 years and Wells wouldn't be around by then.
    2. Of course you can overpay for a player if he adds extra value to the structure. Regardless, you can't say Collingwood overpaid when
    -Wells hasn't even been declared unfit for round 1
    -Wells hasn't even played a single game in the Pies outfit
    3. "Couldn't of happened to a better club", wanna explain what you mean here?
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    1. Noun. Satisfaction or pleasure at someone else's misfortune, particularly Collingwood supporters.

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    Yes, just a bit of playful banter there I think.

    Anyway, Collingwood knew the risk with picking a player like Wells, I thought he was an odd pick personally but my Collingwood supporter best mate (almost) convinced me why he's a worthwhile punt last night. Might've been the ales we were downing cos he almost did convince me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prochard View Post
    1. There was indeed a reason why North didn't match, it's because they know they wont be relevant for the next 5 years and Wells wouldn't be around by then.
    2. Of course you can overpay for a player if he adds extra value to the structure. Regardless, you can't say Collingwood overpaid when
    -Wells hasn't even been declared unfit for round 1
    -Wells hasn't even played a single game in the Pies outfit
    3. "Couldn't of happened to a better club", wanna explain what you mean here?
    Calm your farm Prochard - as someone mentioned before, just a bit of playful banter

    1. Hey I agree with you - North probably won't be relevant when it comes to finals for the next few years. I've accepted that but to be fair, neither will the Pies. GWS are going to make both teams look extremely second rate, but that's the way it's fallen. Furthermore, at least we have the guts to reset (or any other 're' buzz word you can think of). You can't hold on to your old stars forever. I'm personally looking forward to the next build

    2. Agree here again - but if that player is older with a history on niggling injuries, a contract of that size given where he is in his career is borderline reckless IMO (again this is only an opinion and you can choose to have your own - we all have that right )

    3. Refer to the "playful banter" in a previous post. Hits the nail on the head, or the calf - depending how you want to look at it

    I hope this answered your points above and other than that, I hope for your sake the Pies don't fall over again. This should be a year they push for finals. So good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost In The Sky View Post
    Well that sucks... Had hoped he'd be back by Round 1.

    Hope Vardy has a ripper pre-season as I'm quite excited by him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowsus View Post
    Bad news for a supporters of a Club can quite often be good news for SC in the pre-season.
    For those not going set and forget in the rucks this season, I think Giles will be a clever pick as a R2 stepping stone.
    He played 3 H & A games last season for:
    Rnd 13 - SC 60, TOG 72% rucked with McInnes against S Martin, who was too athletic on the day.
    Rnd 18 - SC 38, TOG 47% rucked with Lycett against Gawn. Enough said, 2nd Ruck against the seasons best!
    Rnd 23 - SC 123, TOG 73% Lycett started the game, but didn't finish. Rucked against Jacobs.
    That's an average of SC 74, TOG 64% against 3 handy opposition Rucks, and playing 1.5 games as 2nd Ruck.
    Historically his TOG figures are around 85%, so he can improve there, and even if he Rucks with Vardy I think Giles gets the number 1 ticket.
    I don't have H2A figures for 2016, but in 2015, where Giles played 3 games for SC 84, TOG 80% at Essendon (Rucked 1 out against Campbell for 85, 1 out against Phillips (GWS) for 106, 1 out against Jacobs for 61 in a 112 point thrashing). While those 2015 figures aren't hugely inspiring, what gives me hope is his H2A's that season. Giles averaged 22.3 H/Outs and 9 H2A's. That's a conversion rate of 40%, which was clearly the best conversion rate for any Ruck averaging over 20 H/Outs per game. Z Smith at 33.7% and Jacobs at 33.5% were the next best.
    I can see Giles potentially averaging low 90's off a high 60's price, after his discount. With good JS, that sounds perfect for a R2 Stepping Stone.
    What chance McGovern playing a role as second ruck now? Has often said he wants to.

    Would that make him relevant, do you reckon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDIG View Post
    Yes, just a bit of playful banter there I think.

    Anyway, Collingwood knew the risk with picking a player like Wells, I thought he was an odd pick personally but my Collingwood supporter best mate (almost) convinced me why he's a worthwhile punt last night. Might've been the ales we were downing cos he almost did convince me!
    Wells is a matchwinner when fit. Depending on what they paid, even half a season could be really good from him imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    *Hands Up* Ooooh i think i know the answer to this!! There's a German word for it: Schadenfreude:

    1. Noun. Satisfaction or pleasure at someone else's misfortune, particularly Collingwood supporters.

    "Boy, those Germans have a word for everything!" - Homer J Simpson
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    What chance McGovern playing a role as second ruck now? Has often said he wants to.

    Would that make him relevant, do you reckon?
    Gov won't be playing in the ruck. I think if we wanted him to, we wouldn't have added Petrie. Gov is just too valuable in the backline where he is one of the best in the comp.

    My best guess is Giles starts off as our number one ruck and then Petrie and Vardy fight it out to get the 2nd ruck spot. It's only been a couple of weeks of pre-season training, but reports are that Vardy is flying and looking very good showcasing his athleticism and speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost In The Sky View Post
    Gov won't be playing in the ruck. I think if we wanted him to, we wouldn't have added Petrie. Gov is just too valuable in the backline where he is one of the best in the comp.

    My best guess is Giles starts off as our number one ruck and then Petrie and Vardy fight it out to get the 2nd ruck spot. It's only been a couple of weeks of pre-season training, but reports are that Vardy is flying and looking very good showcasing his athleticism and speed.
    Vardy would have to be close to being sub-200k having played 4 games in 3 years (only one in 2016). A very handy R3 cover if he can make the field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomberboy View Post
    Wells is a matchwinner when fit. Depending on what they paid, even half a season could be really good from him imo.
    If you are in a premiership window fair enough. Wells is about getting into the 8 in my view. Appease the masses.
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    Luke Parker & Tom Papley in for surgery this week.

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    Bit more info^

    LUKE Parker and Tom Papley face major interruptions to their pre-season programs after undergoing surgery in recent days.

    Parker's recovery from a PCL injury sustained in the preliminary final against Geelong hit a hurdle, and he had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee on Tuesday to assist his recovery.

    Meanwhile, Papley faces two months off his legs after surgery to relieve the symptoms of compartment syndrome.

    It looms as a huge blow to the second-year small forward's chances of repeating the success of his first season at the top level, when he booted 29 goals from 20 games as a rookie.

    Parker, 24, didn't miss a game in 2016, averaging almost 27 possessions in his 26 matches, while also booting 25 goals, and bravely played in the Swans' Grand Final loss to the Western Bulldogs despite struggling with the injury.

    Leading medical expert Dr Peter Larkins said Papley's injury was commonly found in runners and other participants of court-based sports.

    Former No.1 draft pick Travis Johnstone had similar surgery after he was drafted to Melbourne in 1997.

    "We say to patients that you're not going to be able to go back into running for a minimum of six weeks, maybe eight weeks," Larkins told AFL.com.au.

    "The surgeons are really releasing the membrane around the muscle compartment, as sometimes the muscles expand within that tight little package with a heavy load of training.

    "The muscle is so tight under the skin that it needs to be released, similar to how a sausage sometimes bursts when you're cooking a barbecue."

    Sydney’s head of football Tom Harley said the club had hoped surgery wouldn't be needed for Parker, this year's Brownlow medal runner-up, but the injury hadn't responded as well as they'd hoped.

    "Rest and recovery is the best typically (to heal a PCL injury) and Luke has been doing that since the Grand Final. He was starting to ramp up his training but the injury has regressed slightly," he said.

    "It was decided a couple of days ago that an arthroscope is the best course of action and we fully expect Luke to recover well."

    Papley's first-year haul up forward included nine goals in his four finals, giving the Swans' forward line a fresh look thanks to his tackling pressure and keen goal sense.

    "Tom (Papley) developed compartment syndrome when he started to ramp up his off-season program and he required surgery last week to release the pressure in the compartments in both legs," Harley said.

    "There's some wound healing initially that he will need to recover from and he will be off legs for the best part of eight weeks.

    "It's disappointing but the success rate for this type of surgery is really high, so we're looking forward to Tom recovering well and hitting the ground running come the new year."

    Larkins envisages Papley being able to complete 'seated' training within two weeks, if his body responds how it should and doesn't face any complications with infection over the next 10 days.

    "It will be eight weeks that he'll be able to do some running out on the oval," Larkins said.

    "Once the wound is healed up (after two weeks) he'll move into water-based activities, including work on the Alter G treadmill.

    "I don't think his fitness will be too badly compromised through December or January, so it shouldn't affect his start to the season."

    The pair join star forward Lance Franklin and ruckman Sam Naismith on limited programs before the Christmas break, with Franklin and Naismith expected to resume full training in the new year.
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    So does this rule out Parker as a starting pick?

    He probably still has plenty of time to get right, but there are so many other MID considerations that will have faultless pre-seasons that I can't see him starting for my team.
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    Zac Clarke will be on the sidelines for 6 weeks after he underwent knee surgery.
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    Sandi!!!!
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    Brad crouch to miss JLT and unlikely for Round 1 with hamstring issue.
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    Willie Rioli will miss 3 months with a hamstring!

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