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    In SuperCoach Era, where the trend appears to be to select up and coming Young Guns such as Patrick Dangerfield and Dayne Beams there has been no talk of Old School SuperCoach Premiums. It has actually been implicitly or expressly ridiculed to have Old School premiums in your initial SuperCoach team. However, my view is you should at least consider them especially if they have a soft draw early.

    A few Old School favourites that possibly should be at least considered (but not necessarily selected) include:

    • Adam Goodes
    • Nick Riewoldt
    • Paul Chapman
    • Chris Newman

    Some may view I have a strong preference for proven player, albeit old players and some may argue it's my preference of Brand Names. However, strangely I am seriously considering them mainly as a Pinch Hitter and then assess them after the Pinch Hitting period.

    Adam Goodes ($479,900)

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    Nick Riewoldt ($513,100)

    Looking at Rowsus' great article on Search for Flat Track Bullies, Riewoldt has a nice mention. I also read somewhere that Riewoldt has a relatively good average against the first four teams that St Kilda play (GCS, RIC, GWS, ESS). Riewoldt's starting price is a bit too high for my liking.

    Paul Chapman ($535,600)

    I have no doubt that Chapman has been discarded by 90% of SuperCoach teams, but I have not discarded him. Chapman is probably too risky for most. Chapman has had a great record in SuperCoach and apparently had a great pre-season. Yes, Chapman was subbed off, but I read Geelong would have kept him on if it was a regular AFL game.

    Chris Newman - No comment

    While I am not proactively advising any of these Old School SuperCoach premiums, and note that this is not an exhaustive list, I think you should not just simply select Young Guns just for the sake of it.

    Adam Goodes is firming in my team the more I think of it.

    Is anyone considering Old School SuperCoach players; for example, Dal Santo, Jude Bolton (to a lesser extent), Chris Judd and Matthew Pavlich (yes limited pre-season)? Or should the past stay in the past?

    Remember, the reason why you think these guys are Old School is obviously because they are (implicitly) underperforming, which means that these Old School premiums are arguably underpriced (if they come back to their premium status).

    Again, I highlight that I'm not suggesting any of these players should be in your team, but with 30 trades and with an opportunity of a Pinch Hitter strategy, my advise is don't be afraid to pick (or at least consider) an old school favourite.
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    Nup. The only "Old-School" SuperCoach Player that I have in my Team and have considered is D. Cox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damoz View Post
    Nup. The only "Old-School" SuperCoach Player that I have in my Team and have considered is D. Cox.
    You've made it very clear that your policy is against over 30's that would eliminate most "old school" players.

    I hadn't thought of it until now but maybe (just maybe) NRoo might be a good starter at F3

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    My surprise first up "Switch Hitter" is definitely old school.
    Picked for a purpose, and a short period only!
    Outside of him, and Cox, I don't have any other "oldies" at the moment.
    We're goin' to need a bigger boat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue dreamer View Post
    You've made it very clear that your policy is against over 30's that would eliminate most "old school" players.

    I hadn't thought of it until now but maybe (just maybe) NRoo might be a good starter at F3

    Not that I'm encouraging or discouring Riewoldt
    , but his average average against GC, Essendon and Tiger is 117,

    This average excluding games against GWS (which he hasn't played), but you would expect him to at least crack the 100 against GWS.
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    Nroo could be a switch hitter early for buddy.

    but jono brown i'd love to pick in my side. just because its jonathon brown firstly but with lions early draw, having some players back this year he could do well enough early to pinch hit, or the switch hit maneuver for buddy? right price to 'take a punt' for the potential return

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    BTW jay, i like this article!!

    i've had chappy every year i've played SC. so last 3-4 years i've had him starting and i haven't been let down. chappy is a gun, wish he played for the dons

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    Good article Impromptu

    Much love for the Chappy! Was a little scared after this weekends game, pulled up a little sore but he was only taken off as a pre-cautionary measure and there is no reason he won't play next round. Cox for obvious reasons.

    May not be as 'old school' as other players but I simply can not find any reason not to have Delids in my side other than he is no longer DPP but his consistency is absolute magic, therefore he's locked and loaded.

    Pav is borderline in my team at the moment and if he is ready to go then will be a lock. Coach experimented with more mid time for Pav last season and thankfully realized he is more dangerous up Fwd on the arch which is where he scores 5% more SC points. Pav is also a match winner and don't we just love a goal kicked to put our players team in front just before the final siren for those big high ceiling scores!
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    Quote Originally Posted by supergirl View Post
    Good article Impromptu

    Much love for the Chappy! Was a little scared after this weekends game, pulled up a little sore but he was only taken off as a pre-cautionary measure and there is no reason he won't play next round. Cox for obvious reasons.

    May not be as 'old school' as other players but I simply can not find any reason not to have Delids in my side other than he is no longer DPP but his consistency is absolute magic, therefore he's locked and loaded.

    Pav is borderline in my team at the moment and if he is ready to go then will be a lock. Coach experimented with more mid time for Pav last season and thankfully realized he is more dangerous up Fwd on the arch which is where he scores 5% more SC points. Pav is also a match winner and don't we just love a goal kicked to put our players team in front just before the final siren for those big high ceiling scores!
    Lids is locked in my team but only being 25 I don't think that's old school but i like your thinking.
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    Cox would only be the old school guy in my team but im sure every team has him.
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    lids is magic. mr durable excellent starting pick!

    but haven't got the room for him - want the 'wow' premos to start with

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    picking lids has tempted me too. a great pod for cothcin early.

    n roo is the real tempter but I think the old school pinch hitter approach will be more popoular in the DT space with the extra trades. The likes of ROK and N roo are gracing my DT this year but not willing to risk it in SC - 30 trades still isn't THAT many knowing the choas the will no doubt occur!!
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    To be honest after the weekend I have looked at Jude Bolton and a few others!
    I was busy cross checking my team selections against the % people have selecetd each and found I wanted to see if i could incorperate some more PODS.

    I do not want to do this to the detriment of my team but feel its an area that should be considered for all teams. In this Jude is only in 1.4% of teams which is an excelent POD if he was to work out. Swans draw is I believe 7th best for the year and he can get plenty of the pill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue dreamer View Post
    You've made it very clear that your policy is against over 30's that would eliminate most "old school" players.

    I hadn't thought of it until now but maybe (just maybe) NRoo might be a good starter at F3
    Over 29's*

    I did say I've only considered it (Even though he is currently in my Team). It's not a definite lock-in for me.

    On Monday, before this Thread was made, I changed it from I Maric to Cox. It is likely to change back to Maric, but I changed to Cox, because after reading the NAB Cup Round 2 Highlights, I needed to play around with Selections in my Team.
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    Wasn't having a go at you, sorry for getting it wrong, have the same "general" rule but am happy to make exceptions.

    Not as hard and fast about it as you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue dreamer View Post
    Wasn't having a go at you, sorry for getting it wrong, have the same "general" rule but am happy to make exceptions.

    Not as hard and fast about it as you are.
    Oh okay. That's okay then.

    I'm just playing around with my Team until the NAB Cup finishes and the Season starts. It's possible, but not completely locked that Cox will be in my Team. Nic Nat will possibily be out for 2 or 3 Matches. As a result, I want someone for the long-run. Cox did play every game which is a plus, but can he repeat the past two years in this Season too at his age?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damoz View Post
    Oh okay. That's okay then.

    I'm just playing around with my Team until the NAB Cup finishes and the Season starts. It's possible, but not completely locked that Cox will be in my Team. Nic Nat will possibily be out for 2 or 3 Matches. As a result, I want someone for the long-run. Cox did play every game which is a plus, but can he repeat the past two years in this Season too at his age?

    It's Cox lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by supergirl View Post
    It's Cox lol
    LOL I know! In 2011, his average was 88. However, prior to that it was 101 (in 2009) and 98 (in 2010).

    It's a risk. New Breakouts (e.g. Maric) or old (in age), but still premium SuperCoach Players?

    By the way, it was a rhetorical question.
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    You could probably add Boomer to that list if he wasn't suspended
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    Glad over 50's get a gig on this site. Am a bit worried about general soreness as the year goes by though.
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