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    Heeney , Billings , Wingard , Gray all under clouds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowsus View Post
    Why are all the SC relevant injuries happening to players I'm not picking!
    It forces people on to my less popular players, and I'm greedy, I want them for myself!
    Ummm....so you would prefer all the SC relevant injuries to happen to players you are picking???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowsus View Post
    Why are all the SC relevant injuries happening to players I'm not picking!
    It forces people on to my less popular players, and I'm greedy, I want them for myself!
    What don't you like about him Row? Just better options?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beg2Differ View Post
    Ummm....so you would prefer all the SC relevant injuries to happen to players you are picking???
    Touche'

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkie View Post
    What don't you like about him Row? Just better options?
    Currently on 16% ownership, and I'm expecting that to climb into the low 20's come season start.
    That will put him the top 4 non-Rookie Fwds as far as popularity goes, and I'm just not 100% convinced on him.
    It seems most are picking him on the pretense of more midtime, and I just wonder where it comes from. Montagna didn't play that much midtime, then we have:
    Ross, Steven, Steele, Newnes, Dunstan, Acres, Weller - add in the short termers Sinclair, Gresham, and Savage - it seems he's going to have push one of the top ones out to get siginificantly more time.
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    then you add in Armitage coming back, and unless there is some sort of injury to one of the key mids, I just can't see a significant increase in Billings midtime.
    That being the case, I don't see much improvement coming on last seasons 93, maybe 95 or 96 at best, and if that's the best he's going to do, at his price and popularity, I'd just rather look elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bontempele View Post
    uhmmm. No idea what this article is about - It's trapped behind a paywall.

    Oh wait - once I comment - I see "sport/afl/rory-lobb-likely-to-miss-round-one-as-gws-injury-curse-enters-third-year/news-story/"
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    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...a6a9fa5b5bd8f5

    Rory Lobb likely to miss round one as GWS injury curse enters third year

    Greater Western Sydney yesterday hosed down injury concerns over new No 1 ruckman Rory Lobb but conceded he was in doubt for the start of the premiership season.

    With less than six weeks to the start of the season proper, Lobb’s restricted pre-season *because of previous groin injuries is likely to cost him valuable match conditioning in the JLT Community Series, which could put back his start to 2018.

    GWS’s injury curse has *already entered a third season and Lobb is so important that any absence would seriously jeopardise the Giants’ crack at a maiden premiership after losing preliminary finals in the past two seasons.

    The club’s best running *defender, Zac Williams, ruptured his Achilles last month at training and could miss the *entire year. In a cruel twist, Williams was initially ruled out for *between six and seven months.

    Giants general manager of football operations Wayne Campbell told The Australian his club was taking a “cautious *approach” with Lobb, 25, who was expected to join in full training later this month.

    “It’s really been a careful build-up for Rory, as a result of a hangover of groin injuries over the past two years,” Campbell said.

    “He’s fine, we’re not concerned and he’s doing plenty of running.

    “He could be in full training now but we’ve taken it easy with him for six or seven weeks, which we believe will help him get through an entire season in the ruck.”

    Campbell said GWS were “hopeful” Lobb would play in the second JLT practice game against the Swans on March 9 at Blacktown, but added there was a possibility he might not.

    Lobb, who was forced to sit out five games last year with soreness in both groins, has been earmarked to take over permanently from the retired Shane Mumford as the Giants’ key big man, as he did superbly in the club’s latest two finals appearances — against the Eagles and *Tigers last year.

    After 55 games as a back-up ruckman and key forward, he has replaced Mumford, who was forced to retire prematurely after breaking down again with a serious foot injury against Adelaide in last season’s qualifying final.

    The Giants, however, remain confident Lobb’s interrupted preparation will not lead to an extension of the club’s shocking luck with injuries to key personnel in 2016 and 2017 when their seasons ended in preliminary final losses.

    After a breakout third season in 2016 where he kicked 29 goals and developed into one of the elite competition’s best contested marks, Lobb resisted overtures from Fremantle and West Coast to return home and signed a two-year contract extension keeping him with the Giants until the end of next year.

    GWS backed Lobb to stand up this season after his 70 hit-outs against West Coast and Richmond in the club’s past two finals in Mumford’s absence. Lobb had 151 hit-outs when used sparingly in the ruck in the home-and-away season. Mumford’s 802 tap-outs in 2017 was a benchmark which will be tough to equal.

    The concern for GWS coach Leon Cameron if Lobb breaks down again is that he has few other proven ruck options. Next cab off the rank is the moderately performed Dawson Simpson, followed by developing big man Matthew Flynn, 20, who was drafted in 2015.

    Another possibility is former Collingwood key-position player Lachie Keefe, who was picked up late last year after being *delisted by the Magpies. Not only has Keefe, 27, not played senior football since 2014, but he has never played as a ruckman.

    But in a gamble, the 204 centimetre endurance athlete is being trained up this year for a back-up ruck role. Keefe missed the 2015 and 2016 seasons because of a doping suspension and did not play a single senior game last year when he was returned to Collingwood’s primary list. In Keefe’s 40-game career with the Pies, he has had a total of seven hit-outs.

    At one stage earlier last *season, the Giants were unable to select up to 12 of their better players in consecutive rounds. The club conducted a review into its conditioning program but put most injuries down to bad luck. Last year’s priority recruit, Brett Deledio, played only a cameo role towards the end of last season *because of ongoing problems, while fellow experienced midfielder Ryan Griffen was halted in his tracks by ankle injuries after the first three rounds.

    Leading goal kicker Jeremy Cameron was plagued by hamstring problems over the final 10 weeks, when he missed six games, including a semi-final and preliminary final.

    Campbell said the Giants could not be happier with Cameron’s health since he resumed from a break. “He’s flying and he hasn’t missed a session,” Campbell said, adding that he expected Griffen and Deledio to take part in pre-season matches after both stepped up modified programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowsus View Post
    Touche'



    Currently on 16% ownership, and I'm expecting that to climb into the low 20's come season start.
    That will put him the top 4 non-Rookie Fwds as far as popularity goes, and I'm just not 100% convinced on him.
    It seems most are picking him on the pretense of more midtime, and I just wonder where it comes from. Montagna didn't play that much midtime, then we have:
    Ross, Steven, Steele, Newnes, Dunstan, Acres, Weller - add in the short termers Sinclair, Gresham, and Savage - it seems he's going to have push one of the top ones out to get siginificantly more time.
    BUT
    then you add in Armitage coming back, and unless there is some sort of injury to one of the key mids, I just can't see a significant increase in Billings midtime.
    That being the case, I don't see much improvement coming on last seasons 93, maybe 95 or 96 at best, and if that's the best he's going to do, at his price and popularity, I'd just rather look elsewhere.
    Thanks Row, that’s fair enough.

    For what it’s worth, I had limited interest in Billings early on, but the more I have looked, the more I have liked him. I’m sure you know the bull case so I won’t restate it, but his goal kicking was horrible last year, so if he can simply straighten that up (he’s had specific training for it this off season), that’s potentially 2-3 points per game. It sounds like he may get some additional mid time if the cards fall his way, but I’d be picking him on the basis that straighter kicking and a little natural improvement could push him up to the high 90s even if the extra mid time doesn’t come through. Time will tell!
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    LDU back injury. in doubt for Rd1
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic View Post
    LDU back injury. in doubt for Rd1
    Frees up a bit of cash!
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic View Post
    LDU back injury. in doubt for Rd1
    Better now than 6 minutes into round 1 I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzzo View Post
    Frees up a bit of cash!
    Welcome Mr Lovell or Mr Maynard of the Dees variety (tad expensive but big big interal wraps)
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic View Post
    LDU back injury. in doubt for Rd1
    Massive!

    Hope that helps Ahern, who is also battling something or other but was probably going to be ok for rd 1.
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    Rule 101 get a full deck on the park rd.1. Still very early for rookies. Preseason niggles to one or two the promising ones casts a few doubts.
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    Link for LDU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic View Post
    LDU back injury. in doubt for Rd1
    He has been named for aflx Friday night....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bontempele View Post
    Link for LDU?
    Was on C7 news last night

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    Just saw this on twitter:

    Port Adelaide forward Robbie Gray is out of AFLX with an adductor injury. Jack Watts will captain the Power @AFLcomau


    Gray even less chance to be in many starting squads and Watt's is still king of the kids
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    For anybody who was silly enough to be considering Bennell, it was just reported by Paul Hasleby that he has re-injured his calf.

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    Sounds good re Heeney and Billings

    ADE
    Overall, the Crows are in pretty good nick. Half-back flanker Brodie Smith is making encouraging progress in his rehab from a torn ACL and could return late in the year. Everyone else apart from forward Riley Knight should be available for round one, although Taylor Walker and Hugh Greenwood have had interrupted pre-seasons.

    Rule him out: Brodie Smith (knee), possible return late in the season.

    Racing to be ready: Forward Knight appears to be only a slight chance of being ready for round one after having minor ankle surgery. The Crows are more confident about the prospects of skipper Walker, who will miss the JLT Community Series with a foot injury. Midfielder Greenwood is back into full training after Achilles surgery in November, while Brad Crouch has been on a modified program with hamstring soreness. - Lee Gaskin


    BRI
    Brisbane has almost had the perfect pre-season from an injury standpoint. Tom Bell (ankle), Allen Christensen (shoulder) and Mitch Robinson (foot) all began training from the start of November after missing much of 2017, while captain Dayne Beams progressed quickly after off-season shoulder surgery. Jarrod Berry missed a few weeks with a foot niggle but has been in full training since Christmas, while Josh Walker dislocated a finger during the intraclub but will be back training next week.

    Rule him out: Sam Skinner (ACL) possible return mid-late season.

    Racing to be ready: The only concern for the Lions is utility Marco Paparone who had surgery to release pressure from his sciatic nerve last month. He is not expected to play again until round one or two, mostly likely in the NEAFL. - Michael Whiting

    CAR

    Apart from All Australian Sam Docherty and veteran defender Sam Rowe recovering from knee reconstructions, the Blues are in reasonable shape as the opening-round blockbuster against Richmond draws closer. Inside midfielder Matthew Kennedy played in the AFLX tournament at Etihad Stadium last night, proving he has recovered from surgery on both shoulders in the off-season. Patrick Cripps has enjoyed an outstanding pre-season as he returns from a broken leg and fellow midfielder Ed Curnow is moving well after having an early setback with the bruised larynx that ended his 2017 campaign. Ruckman Andrew Phillips is progressing well after foot surgery in the off-season and key forward Harry McKay is stepping up his work after having bone spurs removed from a toe.

    Rule him out: Sam Docherty, ruptured ACL, 2019 return; Sam Rowe, torn ACL, TBC

    Racing to be ready: Recruit Darcy Lang is recovering after straining ligaments in his ankle earlier this month. The Blues hope he will be available for the opening round. - Howard Kotton

    Ex-Cat Darcy Lang is struggling to be fit for round one. Picture: AFL Photos

    COL
    Key Magpies Jamie Elliott (ankle) and Levi Greenwood (knee) had delayed surgery after injuries dating back to last season, while Alex Fasolo (shoulder) suffered his injury in training at the start of pre-season. Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley recently defended the medical processes at the club to AFL.com.au, saying all three had been treated appropriately.

    Rule him out: The Pies have a handful of concerns, but no one has been officially ruled out of round one as yet.

    Racing to be ready: Elliott, Fasolo and Greenwood needed untimely operations late last year but are aiming for match practice in the JLT Community Series and to be available for round one. Darcy Moore (Achilles) and Jeremy Howe (calf) had setbacks this year but are also aiming to ramp things up in the coming weeks – the former is already running while the latter expects to return soon - also with an eye to possible pre-season competitive action before the season opener. Daniel Wells has had a managed pre-season but should be available, as should Tom Phillips after he was pulled out of AFLX with illness. - Jennifer Phelan


    ESS
    The Bombers look set to enter the JLT Community Series in reasonably healthy shape, particularly after crucial defender Michael Hurley was cleared of any serious injury to his wrist from last week's intraclub match. That game did claim one victim, however, with Jayden Laverde ruled out for up to 10 weeks with a hamstring injury. Travis Colyer (foot) is also going to be unavailable for the early stages of the season.

    Rule him out: Travis Colyer, foot, 10-12 weeks; Aaron Francis, mental health, TBC; Jayden Laverde, hamstring, 8-10 weeks

    Racing to be ready: Second-year pair Kobe Mutch and Jordan Ridley should be available for selection by the time of Essendon's round one clash with Adelaide. Mutch is 4-5 weeks away following knee surgery, while Ridley is back into training after his ankle surgery late last season. - Callum Twomey

    A hamstring strain means Jayden Laverde is no chance to play in round one. Picture: AFL Photos

    FRE
    The majority of the Dockers' squad is in good shape heading towards the JLT Community Series and a tough round one trip to face Port Adelaide. Important players Aaron Sandilands (hamstring), Michael Walters (PCL) and Lachie Neale (knee, groin) appear in excellent shape after off-season surgery. Stephen Hill has been battling a quad strain but the issue isn't thought to be serious given he was running around the boundary at decent pace before watching last Friday's intraclub from the sidelines.

    Rule him out: At this stage, it appears Freo should have a full squad to choose from.

    Racing to be ready: Young defender Alex Pearce has returned strongly after nearly two years out with a broken leg, but it remains to be seen if his match fitness will see him available for round one. Promising ruckman Sean Darcy is working his way back from a "significant" calf strain and didn't play in last week's intraclub, with his return date unclear. Harley Bennell is still on a club-imposed suspension and, having suffered another calf strain, seemingly needs to make every post a winner to be included for the season-opener. - Travis King

    GEE
    Geelong has seen much improved player availability on the training track this pre-season compared to last. There are some concerns about the fitness of key defender Lachie Henderson, who has twice gone under the knife for a knee injury, while Scott Selwood (ankle) is also battling to be ready for round one after surgery late last month.

    Rule him out: Lincoln McCarthy (groin)had surgery in May last year and has had some issues in his recovery. Given his long injury history, the Cats will be cautious with his return.Quinton Narkle (knee) ruptured his ACL in June last year and the Cats are hopeful he may be ready to return by sometime in the middle of the year.

    Racing to be ready: Henderson has not yet joined in full training and there is genuine concern around his availability for the start of the season. Scott Selwood has also recently gone under the knife and is in doubt for the opening round. Stewart Crameri (hip) is getting ready to step up his training but has not been sighted in full match practice yet. Youngsters Jack Henry and Mark O'Connor are others who have been in rehab and will need to build up their programs in the coming weeks. - Ben Guthrie

    GC
    One of the most pleasing things in Stuart Dew's first three months as coach has been the health of his list. The Suns have regularly had 40-plus players doing most sessions, with Tom Lynch (PCL) and Kade Kolodjashnij (concussion) completing the entire pre-season after finishing 2017 on the sidelines. Sam Day has progressed well from his horror dislocated hip and is on track to play pre-season matches, while Pearce Hanley has been in full training since Christmas after breaking a finger during the International Rules Series.

    Rule him out: Can't put a line through any Suns players at the moment.

    Racing to be ready: Young forward Callum Ah Chee has recovered from a broken hand and is now dealing with a hamstring injury. He's a couple of weeks from rejoining full training, and with the club taking a cautious approach, will struggle to get any pre-season matches in. Adelaide recruit Harrison Wigg fractured his ankle prior to Christmas and has just started running again. - Michael Whiting

    GWS
    The loss of gun defender Zac Williams (achilles) for most of the season aside, the Giants don’t have too many injury concerns, although they’ll be keen to see Toby Greene, Brett Deledio and Rory Lobb back in full training soon. Adam Kennedy and Matt Buntine are progressing well from ACL surgery but are unlikely to be considered.

    Rule him out: Matt Buntine, knee, round 3-4; Adam Kennedy, knee, round 1-2; Brent Daniels, knee, round 2-3; Zac Williams, achilles, TBC

    Racing to be ready: Toby Greene (toe), Rory Lobb (groin) and Brett Deledio (achilles) have had interrupted summers and match fitness will likely be their only issue. - Adam Curley

    Toby Greene's sore toe has kept him out of full training so far. Picture: AFL Photos

    HAW
    All eyes are on Grant Birchall (knee) and Cyril Rioli, who returned from compassionate leave in mid-January after spending the entire pre-season in the Northern Territory. James Frawley, who had recovered from the turf toe issue that ruined his 2017 season, hurt his groin in last week's intraclub match, but is targeting a return in the JLT Community Series. Birchall, Rioli, Isaac Smith (ankle), Kaiden Brand (thumb), Jon Ceglar (back stiffness), Will Langford (finger), Conor Glass, Kurt Heatherley and Harrison Jones did not play in the intraclub match last week. Jarryd Roughead's knee surgery in December was only a minor setback, while Ben McEvoy's hamstring problem is also behind him. McEvoy had strapping on his left elbow in the intraclub contest.

    Rule him out: No-one has officially been ruled out.

    Racing to be ready: Grant Birchall's pre-Christmas arthroscope on his right knee was concerning, because he was again dealing with the swelling and soreness that saw him undergo a PCL reconstruction in August. He is back running, but his return date is unclear. Cyril Rioli's doing lots of running since being back and is mostly training with the main group after completing a personal program while he was away. - Marc McGowan

    MEL
    Melbourne's most high-profile injury concern centres on co-captain Jack Viney and the foot injury that has taken longer to recover from than first anticipated. Aaron vandenBerg is the Demons' long-term injury concern, with the midfielder slow in his progress from a stress fracture in his heel.

    Rule him out: VandenBerg has not begun running yet and there are real concerns about his injury, with a return to the field not in sight.Pat McKenna (hamstring) is about to start running after a number of setbacks in his recovery from a long-term injury.

    Racing to be ready: Viney is set to join full training in the next two weeks but a lack of match conditioning ahead of a round one showdown against Geelong will be a big issue. Dean Kent (shoulder) is still in rehab, while defender Joel Smith (leg) has slowly integrated back into full training. Tim Smith (foot) is in the same boat but given the nature of his navicular injury the Demons will be cautious. Sam Weideman (ankle) is another who has been hampered and appears to be in doubt for the opening of the home and away season. - Ben Guthrie

    NTH
    The Kangaroos did not have the numbers on the track they would have liked before Christmas as players such as Jack Ziebell (toe), Majak Daw (foot), Ben Jacobs (foot), Sam Wright (foot/ankle) and Marley Williams (back/shoulder) started their pre-seasons on modified programs. However, all of those players have ramped up their training since January, with the Roos' list in good health ahead of the JLT Community Series. Forward Mason Wood fractured his thumb last week but is aiming to return for North's opening JLT game against Melbourne on February 24, while midfielder Paul Ahern is on track to play his first game in two years after two knee reconstructions.

    Rule him out: Kyron Hayden, shoulder, May; Declan Watson, knee, July.

    Racing to be ready: Defender Declan Mountford is expected to miss four weeks of training after injuring an AC joint at training this week, which would rule him out of the JLT series, while Jed Anderson is yet to resume full training after undergoing thumb surgery in December. - Nick Bowen

    PORT
    The biggest concern for the Power is defender Matthew Broadbent, who is out indefinitely after surgery for the second time on his troublesome ankle earlier this week. A few of their big names like Chad Wingard, Jared Polec and Steven Motlop have soft tissue injuries, but should be available for round one.

    Rule him out: Matthew Broadbent (ankle) likely to miss at least the first month of the season.

    Racing to be ready: Polec is struggling with a hamstring issue and veteran recruit Lindsay Thomas has had a back-related hamstring complaint. Wingard and Motlop have both had hamstring problems, but should be right. - Lee Gaskin

    Ankle surgery has already cast a shadow over Matthew Broadbent's season. Picture: AFL Photos

    RIC
    While the Tigers had a slew of post-season surgeries, their rehab group has whittled down significantly in recent weeks. Dion Prestia (ankle), Kane Lambert (knee), and Jayden Short, Oleg Markov and David Astbury (all shoulders) have recovered from surgery and will be available for round one barring any setbacks. Ruckman Shaun Hampson continues to battle with a back complaint, however, and it is difficult to see him featuring in the early rounds.

    Rule him out: Shaun Hampson, back, TBC

    Racing to be ready: Premiership forward Daniel Rioli is still on modified training after surgery to repair a broken foot at the end of last season and in doubt for round one. He completed his first running session at the end of January and is being re-educated on his running technique after such a long period off legs. The 20-year-old recently had follow-up surgery to remove a plate from his foot, with coach Damien Hardwick committed to taking a conservative approach with his rehab. - Nathan Schmook

    STK
    Forward Jack Billings is dealing with a hamstring injury suffered at training a couple of weeks ago but was back running, although not at full intensity, within a few days. Josh Bruce, Jack Newnes and rookie Lewis Pierce had knee operations recently but have re-joined the main group. Ruckman Tom Hickey returned to contact work after a right shoulder reconstruction in the last fortnight, while the injuries that plagued Jack Steven (hamstring) and Mav Weller (ankle) in 2017 have not been problems this pre-season.

    Rule him out: The Saints are relatively healthy, with no major injuries.

    Racing to be ready: Only Jack Billings is sidelined right now but he will likely take part in the JLT Community Series. – Dinny Navaratnam

    SYD
    The Swans had some stars go under the knife over summer, and others were given light programs, but the positive news is that all of them are back training and likely to be ready for the JLT community series. Lance Franklin (knees and ankle) and Isaac Heeney (knee) are in fantastic shape, while Josh Kennedy, Jarrad McVeigh, Sam Naismith and Gary Rohan are also looking good.

    Rule him out: Alex Johnson, groin/hip, April/May

    Racing to be ready: Dan Hannebery and Heath Grundy are both battling calf injuries and while they should be right, they don’t have time to have any setbacks from now until round one. - Adam Curley

    Dan Hannebery is the Sydney midfielder most in doubt for the start of the season. Picture: AFL Photos

    WCE
    All eyes are fixed on Nic Naitanui as he edges closer to a long-awaited comeback from his knee reconstruction after 18 months out of the game. The star ruckman has been gradually stepping up his workload in recent weeks and is on track to face Sydney at Optus Stadium in round one. Josh Kennedy has started running again after ankle surgery in December and is aiming for the season-opener. Veteran defender Eric Mackenzie is still in a moon boot after a toe setback and a timeline for his return is uncertain, with the Eagles expecting a delayed start to his season.

    Rule him out: Mackenzie won't be ready for early-season matches after his toe issue flared-up and forced him back into a moon boot last month.

    Racing to be ready: Having your two most important players building towards round one isn't ideal but the Eagles are confident Naitanui will be right for the blockbuster season-opener and Kennedy is making positive progress. - Travis King

    WBD
    The Dogs appear to be fighting fit with all players that had off-season surgery now back to full training. Key defender Marcus Adams has overcome a second serious foot injury inside 18 months and has been taking part in match simulation sessions after returning to full training in January. Goal sneak Tory Dickson has battled adductor, quad and groin complaints over the past two pre-seasons, but the 30-year-old seems to have found some luck.

    Rule him out: After injuries have played havoc over the past few seasons, the Dogs look to have a clean bill of health.

    Racing to be ready: Midfielder Lin Jong and running defender Roarke Smith are on the comeback trail from knee reconstructions, so their availability must be in some doubt. - Ryan Davidson
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