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  • Dangerfield

    22 62.86%
  • Martin

    14 40.00%
  • Titch

    19 54.29%
  • Ablett

    0 0%
  • Kelly

    13 37.14%
  • Oliver

    6 17.14%
  • Zorko

    4 11.43%
  • M Crouch

    10 28.57%
  • Sloane

    1 2.86%
  • Duncan

    0 0%
  • Zerrett

    6 17.14%
  • Neale

    1 2.86%
  • Fyfe

    25 71.43%
  • Pendles

    9 25.71%
  • Bont

    6 17.14%
  • JPK

    0 0%
  • Jelwood

    2 5.71%
  • Treloar

    0 0%
  • Hannebery

    3 8.57%
  • Rockliff

    2 5.71%
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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGeta View Post
    Was it a beginning of this year or the year before Cripps had a weak preseason due to back problems and some other injury?
    I thought it was the beginning of this season
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrad_ View Post
    highly unlikely i.m.o even with their easy draw which is no surprise seeing how much the afl love them

    beat no good teams and got done by the good teams and are to reliant on beating up on the lower teams but having said that managed to lose to brisbane
    We were 3-5 against top 8 sides and finished 8th and 4-3 against the bottom 5, don't think that's a team beating up on bottom sides. We did what is completely standard for an 8th team or a team where we are. Port were 2-7 against top 8 sides and 12-1 against teams outside the 8 and that team they lost to was Melbourne. The dees themselves and the eagles were 4-5 against the 8, bulldogs 3-8 and the saints were 3-7, so it's incorrect to say we're flat track bullies and probably correct that no 3-5 team against top 8 sides is incapable of improving. We do need to find a big bodied mid from somewhere going in to the future but I have us projected at about 6th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    Also think Essendon finish top 4 - good draw and improvement so plenty of pie for the bombers next year IMO. A ripper pre season from Zerrett and I like him in that high 500's but could be a top 3-4 mid category. Seems durable too
    That's very kind of you, but I'm more inclined to think around 6th or somewhere in the bottom half of the 8. We still lack the big bodies in the Midfield, a top-level ruckman and are a key defender short as long as Hooker is up forward. In terms of SuperCoach Zerrett, Hurley (very consistent and cheaper than Doch) Parish and Smith are all interesting. I think it's very possible that Parish has a 3rd year breakout next year and might be a forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000litresgained View Post
    That's very kind of you, but I'm more inclined to think around 6th or somewhere in the bottom half of the 8. We still lack the big bodies in the Midfield, a top-level ruckman and are a key defender short as long as Hooker is up forward. In terms of SuperCoach Zerrett, Hurley (very consistent and cheaper than Doch) Parish and Smith are all interesting. I think it's very possible that Parish has a 3rd year breakout next year and might be a forward.
    Just wondering how you see Parish developing and where you think he sits in the pecking order with Devon Smith and Andrew McGrath also pushing for midfield time. There is definitely room at Essendon for a breakout player. I was thinking a Marc Murphy type who went from 80 to 99 in his third year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freowho View Post
    Just wondering how you see Parish developing and where you think he sits in the pecking order with Devon Smith and Andrew McGrath also pushing for midfield time. There is definitely room at Essendon for a breakout player. I was thinking a Marc Murphy type who went from 80 to 99 in his third year.

    I think Parish will get better next year, the question is how much better. He's already spoken to the media saying he really wants to build his fitness level this off season so he can play much more time on ground and through the midfield. Last year he had 76% time on ground, so if he takes that up by 5% you'll project an automatic 5 point increase from his 76 avg this year and then there's the increase that comes with more midfield time.

    At the moment his kicking efficiency and kick-to-handball ratio lets him down, so although he had a few high disposal games he never managed to score that well. In his junior years he was actually a very good kick (tac cup stats show good kicking efficiency with one really really bad game, the tape looked good and draft experts said he was good on both sides), who opted to kick very often and who won a lot of his own ball (14 contested 12 uncontested possession avg in tac cup), but I think he is having trouble getting used to the pace at AFL level and his decisions making is being affected. Although it's better than him having issues with his kicking skills and is something he should learn and adapt to over time it means he's currently getting a pretty bad disposal to SuperCoach score ratio (21 disposals per game, 3.3 tackles and 8.5 contested). For him to get a lot better he will have to improve in that area.

    On the positive side I think it's likely that he builds up his size again, gets fitter and spends more time in the middle where he could get plenty of contested ball. I'm not too worried about Smith and McGrath getting in his way because I believe the club will be looking to him to step up as a solid contested ball winner in our midfield this year (we have quite a few part timers who will spend less time there and Watson is also gone).

    At his best he looks like a very nifty, skilful and tough (especially for his size) attacking midfielder who also has the traits of a quality workhorse, but he has often looked prone to mistakes or simply without impact on the contest. Good chance that will change and I will heavily consider him if he is a forward and looks good in pre-season. It's possible he gets up to 99 but I'm unsure. I do think his score will go up but that could be anywhere from 85-105.

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    This season those underpriced gems like J.Kelly, Oliver, and Marc Murphy vs those under performing 600k+ picks (ie: hanners, treloar, etc) really set teams apart.

    Will stay open to Cogs, Rocky, Hanners, Cripps picks. Parish if a fwd but he's gotta show a lot in the JLT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000litresgained View Post
    We were 3-5 against top 8 sides and finished 8th and 4-3 against the bottom 5, don't think that's a team beating up on bottom sides. We did what is completely standard for an 8th team or a team where we are. Port were 2-7 against top 8 sides and 12-1 against teams outside the 8 and that team they lost to was Melbourne. The dees themselves and the eagles were 4-5 against the 8, bulldogs 3-8 and the saints were 3-7, so it's incorrect to say we're flat track bullies and probably correct that no 3-5 team against top 8 sides is incapable of improving. We do need to find a big bodied mid from somewhere going in to the future but I have us projected at about 6th.
    its the way that you lost to good teams that will prevent them from doing any damage even before all the drugs it was the same and you have to laugh at all the "experts" that call them contenders before the bye and the same thing happens
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    After watching a bit of that international rules game my first picked player this year is QUADZILLA Nat Fyfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brettthejett View Post
    After watching a bit of that international rules game my first picked player this year is QUADZILLA Nat Fyfe
    He played all of his bad football with a fractured sternum this year, I think he will be back to his 2015 self next year.
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    Fyfe is pretty high on my list. Genuine best in competition contender and last year was always going to be tough.

    As an aside, I have Danger, Fyfe, Titch and Kelly penciled in for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaca View Post
    Fyfe is pretty high on my list. Genuine best in competition contender and last year was always going to be tough.

    As an aside, I have Danger, Fyfe, Titch and Kelly penciled in for now.
    Does Richmond's easy early draw (1 match vs a 2017 top 8 side and only 2 interstate trips to R11) make you consider adding Dusty to that list?
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    Still months out and I'm pretty confident on a set up for Danger, Dusty, TMitch, Fyfe and Cripps will work out well.
    Would love to fit a ZMerrett type in there too but don't funds will allow it. And as always I'll probably find a way to sneak Rocky in before round 1 and hate myself for the rest of the year because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seymour Skinner View Post
    Still months out and I'm pretty confident on a set up for Danger, Dusty, TMitch, Fyfe and Cripps will work out well.
    Would love to fit a ZMerrett type in there too but don't funds will allow it. And as always I'll probably find a way to sneak Rocky in before round 1 and hate myself for the rest of the year because of it.
    Same midfield for me except Kelly for Titch with Coniglio too
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    Going with Titch,Fyfe,Parker,Cripps,Rocky,Cogs,Redden so far.

    Confident i can find a secure captains score through looping early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGeta View Post
    Going with Titch,Fyfe,Parker,Cripps,Rocky,Cogs,Redden so far.

    Confident i can find a secure captains score through looping early.
    Redden?? Why Redden??
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    WestCoast just lost 2 inside mids (priddis and Mitchell) so the theory is he will finally get to play the position that he is best in and go back to scoring well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmo87 View Post
    WestCoast just lost 2 inside mids (priddis and Mitchell) so the theory is he will finally get to play the position that he is best in and go back to scoring well.
    More than a theory to me, Redden is a forgotten man, West Coast bought him as an inside mid than played him as a HF which he was horrible at.
    Towards the end of last season Redden went back into the middle and scored pretty well again considering his wasted years as a HF.

    Redden never turned to ****, played for years out of position. i expect 100-105 for 430k even with West Coast projected to have a rough year, he and Cogs will be my tickets to super premos mid season while holding their own in the mean time.


    Edit: Going for value over all else this year, last years winner who only had something like 7-8 of his starting team in his final team showed me what matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGeta View Post
    More than a theory to me, Redden is a forgotten man, West Coast bought him as an inside mid than played him as a HF which he was horrible at.
    Towards the end of last season Redden went back into the middle and scored pretty well again considering his wasted years as a HF.

    Redden never turned to ****, played for years out of position. i expect 100-105 for 430k even with West Coast projected to have a rough year, he or Cogs will be my tickets to super premos mid season while holding their own in the mean time.


    Edit: Going for value over all else this year, last years winner who only had something like 7-8 of his starting team in his final team showed me what matters.
    Not a bad idea and one I had not thought of but definitely risky given he hasn't played that way for a few years and you don't know what he'll produce in that role at another club. I'd be looking at Prestia, cogs and Steven for a cheaper mid who is capable of going 100+ although not all will be as cheap as Redden. I just rate those 3 so much more as players and that makes me trust them more. You could say those 3 are injury prone whilst Redden will change roles but I say that Redden hasn't shown us enough.
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    It's hard to know what teams agendas are in November, but it is seeming that way yes.
    I think it's important to base your strategy around the SuperCoach landscape, not what happened last year. For example I started sandi, witts and pruess in my rucks last year, but the year prior I would have been stuffed going for value in my rucks. I think it's important to take value where it presents and not look to manufacture it where you think it should be. you also need to remember last year was a unique year where there was very little rookies and going for value was the necessity and anyone who identified this and went with that did well. Next season we may be presented with a heap of good rookies and if that happened getting midpricers may not be as effective.
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