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  • Dangerfield

    46 68.66%
  • Martin

    26 38.81%
  • Titch

    38 56.72%
  • Ablett

    1 1.49%
  • Kelly

    26 38.81%
  • Oliver

    8 11.94%
  • Zorko

    5 7.46%
  • M Crouch

    20 29.85%
  • Sloane

    1 1.49%
  • Duncan

    1 1.49%
  • Zerrett

    12 17.91%
  • Neale

    3 4.48%
  • Fyfe

    47 70.15%
  • Pendles

    14 20.90%
  • Bont

    14 20.90%
  • JPK

    0 0%
  • Jelwood

    3 4.48%
  • Treloar

    2 2.99%
  • Hannebery

    7 10.45%
  • Rockliff

    6 8.96%
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    I think I may be splurging the most next year in the Midfield, considering now Docherty is now injured and the lack of great FWD options this year...

    Another thing that could throw a spanner in the works is the bye rounds. So that will influence who I take first definitely.

    With the likes of Danger, Selwood, Fyfe, Crouch, Sloane, Gibbs, Dusty, Kennedy, Hanners, Gibbs, Neale all the same bye week, that may swing me to look at the likes of

    Rocky
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    Kelly (GWS)
    Bont
    Zorko
    Zerret

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    However taking Port players after their bye, may be the best strategy.. (13 games straight out of those players) as opposed to 12 from other teams.

    Gray
    Rockliff
    Ryder
    Wines


    could be good upgrade/injury replacements..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGeta View Post
    More than a theory to me, Redden is a forgotten man, West Coast bought him as an inside mid than played him as a HF which he was horrible at.
    Towards the end of last season Redden went back into the middle and scored pretty well again considering his wasted years as a HF.

    Redden never turned to ****, played for years out of position. i expect 100-105 for 430k even with West Coast projected to have a rough year, he and Cogs will be my tickets to super premos mid season while holding their own in the mean time.


    Edit: Going for value over all else this year, last years winner who only had something like 7-8 of his starting team in his final team showed me what matters.
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    I'm back after a little hiatus and I'm interested to hear what everyone's early thoughts on the little master are?

    I've (foolishly) had him every single year for probably the last 10 and over the last 2-3 he's cost me directly in terms of ranking.

    I was done for good 2 months ago, but now I'm considering suiting up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sven_inc View Post
    I'm back after a little hiatus and I'm interested to hear what everyone's early thoughts on the little master are?

    I've (foolishly) had him every single year for probably the last 10 and over the last 2-3 he's cost me directly in terms of ranking.

    I was done for good 2 months ago, but now I'm considering suiting up again.
    15/6/14/14 games the last 4 years. Probably never see another supercoach player of his calibre but I think it's time to move on to the next generation.
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    With Doch going down, Gawn/NN likely the cheap rucks, cannot see a situation where I don't start Danger. Some good value in the mids in any case so likely combo such as Danger, Titch, Fyfe, Rocky, Cogs/Cripps balances well.

    Also definitely not starting Bont. I'll wait for him to average 120 over 8 rounds before I bring him
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    Holy crap - I'm the only one going Pendles, Rocky, and M.Crouch.

    I must be one Brave (dumb?) mofo
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    danger,martin and oliver are the only locks for me at the moment
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    Will most likely have a couple of Kelly, Titch, Zerrett and Bont, who I believe have not fully reached their career ceilings yet. Can see 1 or all doing a Martin in the next few years and taking the step to Uber premium status. In order of most likely to reach a 120+ avg first, I would have Kelly ahead of Bont, Titch and Zerrett.
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    Kelly, M.Crouch, Zorko, Fyfe + rookies at the moment
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    Anyone see Seb Ross having much room for improvement?
    My concern is that Jack Steven had a down year carrying a hammy problem and Armitage was out injured.
    Natural progression could see Billings demanding more mid time and Steele, Dunstan, Acres still improving.

    He averaged 4.3 tackles per game and 3.6 clearances.

    He's contested possession ave of 7.6 pg plus his low clearance numbers suggest he isn't the main extractor at the Saints, do they share that job around or is it Jack Steven?
    Obvious areas for improvement look like CP's and goals and maybe a slight reduction in free's against and of course if the Saints finally kick off next year and win more games.

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGeta View Post
    Anyone see Seb Ross having much room for improvement?
    My concern is that Jack Steven had a down year carrying a hammy problem and Armitage was out injured.
    Natural progression could see Billings demanding more mid time and Steele, Dunstan, Acres still improving.

    He averaged 4.3 tackles per game and 3.6 clearances.

    He's contested possession ave of 7.6 pg plus his low clearance numbers suggest he isn't the main extractor at the Saints, do they share that job around or is it Jack Steven?
    Obvious areas for improvement look like CP's and goals and maybe a slight reduction in free's against and of course if the Saints finally kick off next year and win more games.

    Thoughts?
    I don't think so. Not quite contested enough to average big numbers, and unlikely to change that role in the side. Also already has very-high disposal figures, meaning there's not much room for improvement there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bontempele View Post
    I don't think so. Not quite contested enough to average big numbers, and unlikely to change that role in the side. Also already has very-high disposal figures, meaning there's not much room for improvement there.
    the ultimate room for improvement player is the Bont but he seems perpetually unable to start getting his disposal count up. Sloane is quite similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGeta View Post
    More than a theory to me, Redden is a forgotten man, West Coast bought him as an inside mid than played him as a HF which he was horrible at.
    Towards the end of last season Redden went back into the middle and scored pretty well again considering his wasted years as a HF.

    Redden never turned to ****, played for years out of position. i expect 100-105 for 430k even with West Coast projected to have a rough year, he and Cogs will be my tickets to super premos mid season while holding their own in the mean time.


    Edit: Going for value over all else this year, last years winner who only had something like 7-8 of his starting team in his final team showed me what matters.
    Spot on mate, He has up until Round 15 last year been mainly played at HFF with spells in the midfield. When he broke back into the team in Round 15, He started playing a lot more in the guts and Priddis & Mitchell where eased into other positions. Redden avg'd 97 over those last 8 games and as I've been saying for a while now, He and Sheed will be the 2 single biggest beneficiaries of Mitchell & Priddis retiring. He avg'd between 95-103 for his last 5 years at Brisbane and there is no reason he can't match or exceed that in 2018... especially with Nic Nat hitting the ball down his throat instead of the occasional Vardy or Petrie tap in 2017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost In The Sky View Post
    Spot on mate, He has up until Round 15 last year been mainly played at HFF with spells in the midfield. When he broke back into the team in Round 15, He started playing a lot more in the guts and Priddis & Mitchell where eased into other positions. Redden avg'd 97 over those last 8 games and as I've been saying for a while now, He and Sheed will be the 2 single biggest beneficiaries of Mitchell & Priddis retiring. He avg'd between 95-103 for his last 5 years at Brisbane and there is no reason he can't match or exceed that in 2018... especially with Nic Nat hitting the ball down his throat instead of the occasional Vardy or Petrie tap in 2017.
    Much better options are available in the middle in my opinion. I think it's very unlikely he scores better than Prestia or Coniglio at around the same price and he's not anywhere cheap enough to be used as a stepping stone. I'd rather pick Armitage or Griffen and hope that they can make me some money so I can turn them into a top 10 midfielder (not going to do that either). If he is still so capable as midfielder how did he average 64.1 in 2016 with no Sam Mitchell? He was last at his best in the middle at the lions in 2015 in a team that had Beams, Rockliff and Zorko, so I'm not sure if midfield numbers are responsible for his drop in scoring, I'd say he's just declined as a player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000litresgained View Post
    Much better options are available in the middle in my opinion. I think it's very unlikely he scores better than Prestia or Coniglio at around the same price and he's not anywhere cheap enough to be used as a stepping stone. I'd rather pick Armitage or Griffen and hope that they can make me some money so I can turn them into a top 10 midfielder (not going to do that either). If he is still so capable as midfielder how did he average 64.1 in 2016 with no Sam Mitchell? He was last at his best in the middle at the lions in 2015 in a team that had Beams, Rockliff and Zorko, so I'm not sure if midfield numbers are responsible for his drop in scoring, I'd say he's just declined as a player.
    Redden is the type I am probably too conservative to pick in SC but I would have said the same for Oliver last year. I will look closely at Redden in DT has he has always been quite good in that format....and I tend to go a bit more speculative in that game (and generally do better lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze View Post
    Redden is the type I am probably too conservative to pick in SC but I would have said the same for Oliver last year. I will look closely at Redden in DT has he has always been quite good in that format....and I tend to go a bit more speculative in that game (and generally do better lol)
    I mean he's shown something because he averaged 94 in his last 10 games including finals, but then Prestia (456k) averaged 111 in his last 7 games including finals and Coniglio (452k) averaged 106 a year ago and never got going this year due to injuries. Compared to these two I don't see how you can pick Redden at 437k. It's different picking a young guy coming through with the potential to score 105+ than an older guy who seems to have lost a large amount of scoring ability and has never shown he can be a top 15 scoring midfielder. If I'm going to pick a fallen premium it would be someone who has proven themselves as a top 10 scoring player in the past, i.e. JPK, Hanners or Selwood. He's not going to make you heaps of money if he scores 94 for a full season and he's not going to be a top 25 scoring midfielder either. Even if he scores 103 (his highest score ever) I'd rather take a rookie because they would make me more money and I am pretty ambitious in having exclusively top 15 midfielders in my side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000litresgained View Post
    Much better options are available in the middle in my opinion. I think it's very unlikely he scores better than Prestia or Coniglio at around the same price and he's not anywhere cheap enough to be used as a stepping stone. I'd rather pick Armitage or Griffen and hope that they can make me some money so I can turn them into a top 10 midfielder (not going to do that either). If he is still so capable as midfielder how did he average 64.1 in 2016 with no Sam Mitchell? He was last at his best in the middle at the lions in 2015 in a team that had Beams, Rockliff and Zorko, so I'm not sure if midfield numbers are responsible for his drop in scoring, I'd say he's just declined as a player.
    Have to disagree, if one is aiming for a stepping stone to one of the big boys in Danger, Martin, Tich before the byes a risky slow money generator starting at a much lower point i.e Armitage 270k
    has little to no chance of being a better stepping stone than a Redden type at 430k.

    I have Prestia already and most likely will take Redden over Cognilio at this stage.
    If i take Birch at D4 i have 585k to spend on a seventh mid! Bont/Pendles/Cripps
    Very happy with all current lines except that last D4 spot.

    There is so much value everywhere this year i have, Williams,McGrath,Lobb,Sicily,Walters,Prestia,Parke r,Redden and i think all but Redden will be keepers.

    Also Redden will be hungry and he isn't old at 27 or 28.

    I think people spending 530-550k on multiple backs and forwards this year will regret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000litresgained View Post
    Much better options are available in the middle in my opinion. I think it's very unlikely he scores better than Prestia or Coniglio at around the same price and he's not anywhere cheap enough to be used as a stepping stone. I'd rather pick Armitage or Griffen and hope that they can make me some money so I can turn them into a top 10 midfielder (not going to do that either). If he is still so capable as midfielder how did he average 64.1 in 2016 with no Sam Mitchell? He was last at his best in the middle at the lions in 2015 in a team that had Beams, Rockliff and Zorko, so I'm not sure if midfield numbers are responsible for his drop in scoring, I'd say he's just declined as a player.
    Redden came to the Eagles with an adductor injury. He had it operated on in August 2015, but the injury didn't heal and he had to have another operation in December 2015 and that completely ruined his pre-season. He still managed to play in round 1 but a combination of coming to a new team, no pre-season and then being played out of position led to a season where he just couldn't fit in... and as a result a poor SC avg.

    Don't fall into the trap of just judging a player by a single number like his SC avg for a year without knowing the reasons for that number being what it is.

    It's all about looking for which players are going to get new opportunities.

    He may not be for everyone but sure will be a good POD for those that pick him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost In The Sky View Post
    Redden came to the Eagles with an adductor injury. He had it operated on in August 2015, but the injury didn't heal and he had to have another operation in December 2015 and that completely ruined his pre-season. He still managed to play in round 1 but a combination of coming to a new team, no pre-season and then being played out of position led to a season where he just couldn't fit in... and as a result a poor SC avg.

    Don't fall into the trap of just judging a player by a single number like his SC avg for a year without knowing the reasons for that number being what it is.

    It's all about looking for which players are going to get new opportunities.

    He may not be for everyone but sure will be a good POD for those that pick him.

    My reasons for not being interested in him go beyond the average in that year, I just have a hard time seeing him average above 95, and I do think he'll average about 90. I'm not saying he's a bad player or a bad pick, I just see Cogs and Prestia as better options with bigger ceilings.
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